Hi Cosmic Yoruba! I have a question regarding Africa and you seem to be very knowledgeable about Africa. Do you know what the naming system is like among African tribes? Were surnames in existence prior to the colonization by Europeans? I’ve heard that in some tribes, last names didn’t exist. Did people go by the name of their tribe or clan, in addition to their personal/given name like how we do in the west? Thanks!Anonymous
To answer you question. There is a giant tree that grows in the middle of Africa. This tree is miraculous because it sprouts leaves with names on them. When African parents have children, they travel to this tree to pluck a leaf and name their children after what is written on the leaf.
Ah, maybe I should take you seriously and you’re just naive. Do you know how many “tribes” exist in Africa? In Nigeria alone there are over 200, so how exactly am I supposed to know what the naming system is like “among African tribes”. Do you think that there are any people in this world who did not refer to themselves by some sort of name? That in pre-colonial Africa, people just danced and pointed at folks to get their attention?
Or you can just use this all-knowing powerful source, you’ll learn a lot from it.
cosmicyoruba's answers are the best.
An African king named Gormund ruled Ireland during the Anglo-Saxon period in England reports the medieval historian Geoffrey of Monmouth.
Halfdan the Black was the first Africoid king to unite Norway.
When the British Isles were invaded by the Vikings some of these Norse raiders were Africoid. In fact, different varieties of ‘Viking’ Africans lived in Scandinavia during the middle ages and are frequently mentioned in Viking sagas.
There were Black Huns! The dictionary describes the Huns as “a fierce barbaric race of Asiatic nomads who led by Attila, ravaged Europe I the 4th and 5th centuries A.D.” The Gothic writer Jordannes described their infamous leader, Attila the Hun as having “a flat nose and swarthy complexion.” He describes the types of Huns he had seen as “of dark complexion, almost black… broad shoulder, flat noses and small eyres.”
The African Moors dominated southwest Europe during the
Middle Ages for 700 years: 711-1492 A.D. African Moors ruling southwest Europe centuries, darkened whites in this area, especially Portal, which was “the first example of a Negrito (African) republic in Europe?”
Moors ruling Scotland in the 10th century mixed with whites until the black skin color disappeared.
Black Celts (Silures) & Black Vikings vexed with the Scandinavia people. A prominent Viking of the eleventh century was Thorhall, who was aboard the ship that carried the early Vikings to the shores of North America. Thorhall was “the huntsman in summer and in winter the steward of Eric the Red. He was a large man and strong, black, and like a giant, silent, and foul-mouthed in his speech, and always egged on Eric to the worst; he was a bad Christian.”
Another Viking, more notable than Thorhall, was Earl Thorfinn, “the most distinguished of all the earls in the Islands.” Thorfinn ruled over nine earldoms in Scotland and Ireland, and died at the age of seventy-five. His widow married the king of Scotland. Thorfinn was described as “one of the largest men in point of stature, and ugly, sharp featured, and somewhat tawny, and the most martial looking man. It has been related that he was the foremost of all his men.”
The black blood type is common even in Nordic Europe where intermixing has been happening since antiquity.
Black slavery lasted in England for about 400 years (1440-1834), during which time much intermixing occurred.
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In other words: yes, there should be PoC in movies that take place in Europe in any time period.
; ; none of this is well researched! That link is mostly a bunch of made up things @_@!! The original “knights” of England were Black! —including the knights of King Arthur’s Round Table! That’s why they were called “knights” after the night or darkness of their skin. <—- @_@ WHAT. No that’s…not the etymology of that word AT ALL. Knight is from the Old English for servant @__@ What. It has no connection to the word for “night” at all, which has a Greek and Latin origin in nyx/nox.
Vikings like to go around and set up colonies. Gormund was from an African settlement by the vikings in North Africa, these dudes were white but yeah they probably made out with some black people.
Halfdan the Black was called that because he had black hair (just like Eric the Red). Same goes with Thorhall and Thorfinn, black hair, not black skin.
Attila the Hun was probably more like Asian + Middle Eastern.
Moors were a large presence in medieval Europe, yes, this is one of the few things that are correct here.
I don’t understand the impulse here for “black vikings”. Those guys weren’t particularly nice or anything, why would you want them to be a part of your culture? Vikings were raiders, not some bastions of civilization. This desire for inclusion in these cultures only gives them more prominence. Vikings would invade Roman settlements and then leave all the Roman stuff instead of replacing it with their own thing (Roman bathhouses, for example).
I have no idea where this person is getting the “black people took over Scotland” idea. What. No one wants Scotland or Ireland. It’s the other way around. People from those places invaded Roman settlements. Rome built a wall (Hadrian’s Wall) just to keep them out. It was not worth their time and effort to conquer those areas. Seriously, stop givign a shit about Europe so much, especially NORTHERN Europe. All the cool stuff was happening in Italy, Spain and France in the middle ages. Which is where, surprise, all the black people went. But people ignore those places in favor of this Anglo-Saxon view focusing on what the Vikings were doing, what were the Saxons doing, etc… If you’re going to move to somewhere, why would you move to a place that has fewer resources??? Why would Africans go out of their way to conquer some people while on the way passing a bunch of way nicer places?
Is it the castle thing? Do you want castles? Black people made castles.
This is a castle in Gondar, Ethiopia, built circa 1600 CE.
this is “Great Zimbabwe” from the 11th century BCE.
not old enough? here’s a temple from Ethiopia circa 800 BCE
Nubian pyramids in what is present day Sudan.
Africans didn’t give a shit about Vikings, ok? They didn’t need them.
But they WERE in Europe, times a million. I just don’t like seeing this sort of thing to loop back around to disregarding poc accomplishments.
"Is it the castle thing? Do you want castles?"
lol, anyone after 1200 CE treating Geoffrey of Monmouth as a legitimate source
Hi. I know this is slightly outside of the realm of this blog, but I could really use your help. Can you recommend any books about daily life in medieval sub-saharan Africa? Anything about how people lived on the ground, day to day, in the Ghana/Mali/Songhai empires, would be incredible. There are so many books about the daily lives of Ancient Egyptians, and so few about the regular lives of the REST of the continent.
Short of that (a difficult request, I know), know any good books on contemporary daily rural/tribal life (basically, outside of cities) in sub-saharan Africa? If you could point in me in the right direction, I would be greatly appreciative.
Thanks, for both your help, and for running this great (and much needed) blog.
Not sure about this one if anyone knows please help baltimoresci-fi out
Hey, researchy people! Anyone?